Is the Wii U Next Gen?

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I believe the term “next gen” refers to more of an idea than a set period of time that a group of consoles launch. Instead, it should be a moniker for the frontier—the new standard. It’s a phrase that represents the shiny future of photorealistic graphics, lossless sound, and seamless online connectivity.

So, does the Wii U, by virtue of being the first new console to launch in six years, deserve the label of “next gen?”

The more prudent question might be: was the original Wii considered a part of the current generation? Power-wise, the console was only an incremental step above the horsepower of the Game Cube and nowhere even close to the might of the PS3 or Xbox 360. The vast majority of third party games that released on other consoles either bypassed the Wii or were downgraded and infused with waggle controls.

It’s now 2012, the Wii can’t output HD signals, and it is still considered part of the current generation of consoles. To put that in perspective, the original Xbox, which launched in 2001, could output HD. Compared to its console brethren, the Wii was woefully underpowered.

Yet the Wii dominated the competition. It’s a difficult argument to discount the winner of a generation from participating in said generation, but here it goes.

What if the Wii wasn’t actually part of the current generation? The price point, the specs, and the lack of a universal online system show that the Wii should have belonged in the generation before it.

The Wii U is setting itself up to face the same questions of generation identity. The graphic potential of the device is nothing to scoff at, but only through the lens of current generation consoles, and developers still have to figure out an effective way to harness the big screen power of the Wii U, while simultaneously spitting out another video stream for the controller, an obstacle that could keep the Wii U from achieving graphical parity with true next gen consoles.

When Star Wars 1313 or Watch Dogs release for the next Xbox and PlayStation, will the Wii U versions be laughably downgraded, like the third party ports of the Wii? Will LucasArts or Ubisoft even bother with releasing one?

To figure out where the Wii and Wii U fit into their respective console generations, we need to make the distinction as to whether or not the novelty of the new functionalities they introduce (motion controls for the Wii and the tablet controller for the Wii U) propel them to the status of “next gen.”

In the case of the Wii U, the second screen controller isn’t a technology that is prohibited from the current generation of consoles. With Xbox SmartGlass and the connectivity between the PS Vita and PS3, the same basic functionality will be available for this generation. The original Wii had motion controls that set it apart from the PS2 and Xbox, making it a challenge to lump it in with that group, but the Wii U won’t have the same benefit. The argument can’t be made that “the Wii U is ‘next gen’ because it has the second screen,” because critics can point to current gen consoles with the same functionality.

While it’s not a fresh idea, my opinion is that Nintendo is like a renegade cop in an eighties movie, in that they like to play by their own set of rules. They’ll release their console when they damn well please, and if you’re lucky, they’ll put in some features that have been mastered by their competitors.

The problem for Nintendo is capturing the allure of the “next gen” label. When they released the Wii, and they had to stand toe-to-toe with vastly superior machines, motion controls and the sheepish casual market came to the rescue. With grandpas and soccer moms thoroughly over their brief affair with WiiSports, and instead planted firmly behind their iPads and Kindles, Nintendo needs that “next gen” stamp more than ever to entice their wayward hardcore audience into dropping $350 on their machine. It’s a tough road ahead without it.

  • http://twitter.com/rushrooms/status/255480147380146176/ @rushrooms

    I wrote a thing about the Wii U not being Next Gen! I’m all about stirring up some shit. http://t.co/GnqMygn2

  • Jdrm03

    It’s next gen. It’s the successor to the Wii. The technology in the console plays no role in the designation of what gen a console is.

  • http://twitter.com/DPAngeline Dylan Angeline

    …maybe it’s “next-gen” for the nintendo line of consoles, but its not the next generation of consoles. Hardware wise the wii isn’t even current gen…

  • calvincrack

    this article is so futuristic i can’t even believe i’m reading it right now.

  • concretecactus

    If you have ever seen Super Mario Galaxy running at 1080P on an emulator you should know Nintendo has nothing to worry about. CPU speeds have flatlined for years and multi core technology has been around for years.

    The graphical difference in the new system will not be as noticeable. Remember the Wii U does no HAVE to use the second screen. If it starts to struggle with newer games, developers can drop the second screen and increase the fidelity of the game.
    PS4 and Nextbox simply cannot be massive behemoth systems again if they wish to compete price wise with the Wii U.
    Sony is definitely not in a position the support a graphical jugernaught after their dismal last gen. Remember more graphically intense games cost more to produce and Sony dont want to price themselves out of the competition again.

    Is Wii U next gen? Yes it is.

    • Mukkinese

      I agree. By cutting back on the fancier uses of the second screen, the Wii U would have much more power available to run the game itself. From what I have read of developers comments, THQ in particular, displaying information on the second screen, which would normally be overlaid on the main screen, is not only very easy, but uses a tiny amount of CPU resources. Not surprising really since it would only mean adding some display and background graphics and streaming a fairly static image to the Gamepad.

      This would give devs a choice; either the asymmetric gameplay of multi-player and second-screen fun, or pretty much what you would get on newer consoles. I can see a lot of multi-platform third party stuff coming to the Wii U, if only with basic use of the second screen.

  • MartinB105

    “I believe the term “next gen” refers to more of an idea than a set period of time [...]”

    No, it does not, and this line destroys the entire basis of this article, so I stopped reading at this point. A generation is defined ENTIRELY in terms of time. No amount of idiocy you can spew will change that.

    • JoJohn

      So if PS2 like hardware with a bluray drive is released as a new system next summer, you’d consider that a next gen console? Bullshit, a next gen console is defined as a system with hardware that is a generation ahead of the current console specs. This was never an issue until Nintendo decided it couldn’t compete with the competition’s hardware and released the wii. This is why the U is being scrutinized and if you played any of the games being released for it during its “launch window” and play ps3 and 360 regularly, you’d question its next gen credibility too.

      • MartinB105

        Yes, it would be a next generation console, because it’s being released BY DEFINITION as part of the next generation. Your definition of a “generation” is bullshit. The meaning of a word does not change to suit your moronic agenda.

  • Vampiric

    consider that watch dogs and star wars looks like shit, its not an issue

    • KK Walker

      First off, watchdogs looks better than anything on the U. Second, why do you always post broken ass comments? Why don’t you learn how to spell and form a proper sentence before you post another idiotic comment.

  • Vampiric

    This article is nonsewnse

    • Vholer

      Typical vampiric. Thoughtless, misspelled comments.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=746875316 Jon ‘Jonny’ Preece

    im amazed at the support the U has. i think it’ll be the same as the wii, really popular and then covered in dust and next gen games will be best on the nextbox and ps4. i dont think it being the succesor to the wii makes it next gen, i think next gen has to do something new, which the U doesnt, if anything it still fails (no bluray!) my idea of a next gen console would be amazing 3D games, at least a 1tb HDD, built in kinnect type functions that actually work-stuff like that, defo not just catching up with what others have done for almost 10 years

    • http://www.facebook.com/sturm.davenport Sturm Davenport

      ps4, thats a joke. I Love how everybody assumes there is a 100% guarantee that there will be another xbox and ps4.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mr.e.cameron Earl Cameron

    next gen isn’t about tech but about release cycle, which is usually 4-8 years

  • jmc8888

    It’s simple, Star Wars 1313 will release a scaled down version. Like BF3 came in a scale downed version for the 360/ps3.

    If anything THAT was a bigger downgrade than what Star Wars 1313 will be from PC to Wii U.

    Though I’ve read that 1313 will be on 360, so if they’re going to make it on the 360, surely they will put it on the Wii U which is a good deal more powerful.

    The real question is whether ANY of the consoles will be next gen. They won’t be. PC gaming isn’t a generation past and won’t be until 2015-2017…perhaps longer. The 720/ps4 are going to launch with 2008-2010 type tech with a beefy amount of ram.

    Given that the 720 will have the Kinect 2 built in should be another reason for people to understand that the 720 and PS4 won’t be a huge difference better. Next gen simply isn’t ready. This time they’re not going with bleeding edge, but recent PC tech. Which if you understand is a difference of about 4-5 PC ‘gpu generations’. Instead of being +2 or 3 from PC tech, it’ll be -2 from PC tech.

    The GTX 670 is already much better than anything that will be in a so called ‘next gen’ system. None of the next gen system will output at 4k (3840×2160). They won’t be aiming for 120fps, but 60 fps.

    For the sake of simplicity I’ll ignore the whole greatest depression and hyperinflation scenarios that indeed are likely to happen. If you want to include a Kinect 2 with a beefy like 360/ps3 tech launch, you’re going to pay $799-899 just to be even with what was launched last time.

    Thus if you understand they’re going to bundle Kinect 2 with a lower end CPU/GPU parts but still stronger than the Wii U, with most likely somewhere in the 4-6gb ram, you’ll know they’re have a stronger system capable of better textures, but the difference really isn’t that big. They want to sell it for a relatively modest price….I can see it from $399-$599 really. I see that $399 probably as the cheapest possible of the low configuration, and $599 as the highest price for the best configuration.

    Then when you consider all the problems the newer tech led to, quality control is probably going to be a major thought factor with these consoles. Using bleeding edge tech and pulling stuff ahead from even on the PC is great for progressing the industry, but it’s hell for reliability. Using cooler, less powerful, years old PC tech will not only bring down costs of the units themselves, but also increase reliability. Let’s not forget that the 360 cause Microsoft to set aside a BILLION dollars for the repairs. I feel lucky I only got 1 RROD, 1 Disc scratch problem, 1 HD crash, and now the drive is going bad.

    You have Sony taking loss year after year with the PS3, you also realize that while they want to have a great advance over the PS3, they aren’t going to try to realize such a big jump as they did last time.

    When you look at all these things, and realize the economy is bad and getting worse (2008 was just start and we’re still in the beginning phase here in late 2012), there is very little reason for Microsoft or Sony to bring out a new console. But they will, mostly because of the pressure Nintendo is going to put on them. From the day the Wii U comes out, the best console system will be the Wii U hands down.

    But you also realize that they can’t make a system that isn’t feasible. They can’t make the mistakes they did last time. They aren’t focusing just on games anymore, but on the entire living room (which also gives them an excuse for why their systems won’t be Next gen).

    So when they’re telling you
    a) it’s about the living room
    b) Kinect 2 will be included
    c) we don’t want the mistakes that come with unreliability $$$$$$

    Then you have to be stupid to not realize they are already telling you the PS4/720 are not going to be bleeding edge. Read between the lines.

    Also you have to realize how much the ‘security’ has been locked down on Microsoft with all these procedures put into place since some of these leaks about the 720 have happened. Lots of people seem to think that the guts of the 720 will be the ATI 6670 or 7670 based. For references the GTX 670 is 200-400 percent faster than the ATI 6670 in the various things measured.

    I think PS4 will launch last and be the strongest tech, with 720 launched 1/2-1 year earlier with pretty similar tech, both will be ahead of the Wii U and behind the PC. None will truly be in a state of ‘next-gen’, though the newest PC rigs will be getting close and at least capable of multimonitor setups and above hd resolutions as they are now.

    Though to finish, I’ll say overall it doesn’t entirely matter. Graphics are nice, and sometimes they can detract or add to gameplay, but they aren’t the only thing. I love the increase of graphics that have come since my Apple II/Atari roots, but overall the system needs to make sense and be capable of producing great games. The Wii U, the 720, and the PS4 will all be that. There will be differences, but not really huge. Would you consider there is a huge difference between Ultra and Very High? Because that’s probably what you are looking at. Noticable, but minor differences. The Wii U, business wise based on this, makes the most sense. If you ask me, Microsoft and Sony should realize this and wait until they can produce an adequate gap between themselves and the Wii U. Because as of now, it’s not really possible without some major issues arising.

    • JacobL

      Totally out of your ass. Way too much speculation based on fairy tales.

  • FaizanAliNaqvi

    DX10 (Shader Model 4) is a disgrace so i say yes the Wii U is a flop again
    Well done Nintendo once again you have proved how much of a Dumbass a company can be

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